If we don't stop them here, who are they coming for next? Imagine if Hitler would have been stopped by the trade unionists...Like the Communists were in Poland and thus ushering in democracy in the Eastern Block! ....Wait? Unionists were partly responsible for ending Communism in Europe?? It wasn't Ronald Reagan? You mean Faux News never talked about this?
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GOP is big on the redistribution of wealth:
right to the top 1%.
GOP is big on class warfare: people who work for a living are evil. Worse, if in a union, they are leaches.
GOP will learn someday...
I don't know. I mean, there are only so many rich people...At some point when they get their wish and we are all working for minimum wage(if they haven't gotten rid of that) at Walmart, there won't be anyone to vote for them. Of course, the majority of their voter base are people who are voting against their own interests but these people still have decent paying jobs and or, ironically enough, pensions and economic security.
The middle class still has some wealth and these people want it...Badly!
Received an e-mail from my
very conservative right wing newphew today. He also happens to be a Wisconsin teacher, and like 52% of them, holds a masters degree. At the big
Madison rally, he liked a sign that read, "Scott Walker is unqualified to sub". ...and became a Democrat on the spot....
Nice! Yes this is going to turn a lot of people...Turn them poor as well but this guy is a complete prick and doesn't have a lot of support.
Get real. No one is coming for the trade unionists.
BB: That's all there is to it: greed. These overpaid public "Servants" have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and are outraged at the idea of receiving a fair wage that doesn't bust the state's budget.
Pretty silly when the idea of reducing these handouts is equated with Hitler killing union leaders.
And yes, Toad, these voters did vote for their own interest. It's the unions who are screwing the middle class by demanding tax dollars to be overpaid, and providing lousy service in return.
A perfect example being the teachers too lazy to teach who decide to wave signs instead of helping students learn. Greedy greedy greedy.
"over paid"
Says who. It's funny how you would say a teacher is overpaid but not a CEO of an oil company that makes millions per year.
It was tax cuts that caused the strain on the states budget...Not teachers salaries...Gee...I wonder what will happen when you start paying cops less...I wonder if they will be more likely to turn to corruption.
It's the unions that are saving the middle class...Look at the graphs...As Unions have decreased so has the middle class, the amount of money the middle class makes and the larger the income gap between the rich and everyone else widens...Are you blind or something? Do you not see that correlation or do you just not understand it?
BB said - "GOP is big on the redistribution of wealth:
right to the top 1%."
Actually, the main instance of this was the bailouts. Obama was for it. Most Republicans against.
Toad, yes. Over-paid. If they will work for less, they are overpaid. They money saved can be used to hire more teachers.
"not a CEO of an oil company that makes millions per year."
That is none of my damn business, really. It is the business of the oil company board. In contrast, the teachers work for me.
"It's the unions that are saving the middle class."
Actually the unions are screwing the middle class. Forcing factories to close or move away, and increasing unemployment.
The middle class is really made of people working hard to earn and honest living.... something unions discourage.
"Are you blind or something? Do you not see that correlation "
It's an old trick you are using. The idea that two events happening means that one causes the other.
Other changes have happened over time: such as improvement in minority rights.
So, using your logic, improving civil rights has destroyed the middle class. Come on, you are blind if you can't see it!!!
And if you want one more example of how unions are dangerous to working people, look no further than the big snowstorm late last year. The union people (one can't call them workers!) decided to sleep in as part of a labor dispute, and not plow. Nothing was plowed. People could not work. People died.
America works best when it says union? hell no.
Dmarks:
Not Bush, he did the first round of bailouts.
No union has forced any factory to move over seas. In fact, some of the few industries that are staying in th US are the unionized auto industry...The shoe and textile industry was never unionized and they were the first to start moving overseas...Agian, you are just pulling stuff out of your ass without thinking.
Show me the excerpt from union literature where they discourage working hard and making honest living...Again, what planet do you live on?
This is pointless you make no sense at all.
toad asked: ""over paid "Says who."
It's above the fair market value of the work. The money wasted on overpay can be used to hire more teachers.
Overpaying public servants just for the hell of it is a form of government welfare to the well-off. A handout.
Isn't welfare supposed to be for the needy?
"No union has forced any factory to move over seas."
Actually, this happens a lot.
"In fact, some of the few industries that are staying in the US are the unionized auto industry"
Do you HONESTLY have any idea what you are talking about? The Big 3 have opened MANY major plants in other countries. All the while the unions force them to fire more and more of their American workers.
At the same time, the non-union companies in the US like Nissan and KIA hire more and more American workers.
"Show me the excerpt from union literature where they discourage working hard and making honest living...Again, what planet do you live on?"
Planet Earth. Unions discourage the firing of incompetent workers. And a union wage is not an honest age. Face it, it's not sustainable to pay people $60 an hour to build the worst cars in the country while people are being paid $20 in this country to build above-average cars.
I stand with the workers, not the union thugs.
Another silly statement that needs correcting:
"At some point when they get their wish and we are all working for minimum wage(if they haven't gotten rid of that) at Walmart"
It would be an excellent idea to abolish the minimum wage, for several reasons:
1) it forces small businesses to be welfare agencies and hand out unearned money to low wage earners.
2) It forces companies that employ low-wage earners to fire them rather than pay them money that isn't earned.
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Not sure what Walmart has to do with anything. Walmart is just one company with thousands and thousands of competitors, both huge and small. However, Walmart is a great place for workers, as the largest group of American workers chooses to work there.
And it will be until union thugs get into Walmart and unionize it and force Walmart to start firing large numbers of people.
Forced to work there you mean. Once Walmart forces your TV factory, or whatever manufacturing plant used to be in the US, you have no choice other than Walmart for employment.
"2) It forces companies that employ low-wage earners to fire them rather than pay them money that isn't earned"
What does that even mean?? Any company paying minimum wage now can choose to fire an employee who isn't earning their money...Nothing is preventing that now.
Overpaying a CEO is just a form of welfare.
The big 3 have many plants overseas and also sell over seas. Germany, Japan, Sweden, Italy, France, etc...These countries all have auto unions as well.
No, overpaid CEOs force manufacturing over seas. When unions were strongest in the 50s and 60s, the big three were most profitable then. The difference now is that the CEOs of those companies instead of making 15x the amount of their employees now make 300x the amount of their employees. With Rick Wagoners annual wages for being CEO of GM, you could hire 360 factory workers at $40,000 per year.
And if unions are forcing manufacturing over seas, why are there still union auto plants here but virtually no textiles, shoe manufacturers or clothing manufacturers in the US...None of these industries were unionized...You have never been so wrong.
Face it, it's not sustainable to pay a guy $14,000,000 per year when a CEO in Japan will do the same job for $900,000.
So really, with Rick Wagoners salary, you could employ almost the entire workforce of what is currently employed at their Corvette factory in Bowling Green, KY.
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