Tuesday, September 06, 2005

Pro-Lifers Need to Get Over the Adoption Option

I saw a blog the other day where some bleeding heart neo-con was crying about how she didn't understand how someone could have an abortion when so many families wanted a baby, but couldn't have one of their own. She was under the impression that all these "many families" had all given up taking fertility drugs, had settled on adopting 5-year-old black kids, and were unable to find one that was available.

I went to The Administration for Children and Families website, a division of the US department of Health and Human Services, to find out how many US kids were available to these many families. Feel free to check for yourselves, but here are the approximate numbers on orphans and available children up for adoption:

117,000 kids in the US, at the time of the report (1999), needed homes. 51% of these kids were black, 32% where white, 11% were Hispanic and 6% would qualify as other. 29% of these kids were babies under the age of 1 year old at the time they had been made available for adoption and 42% of them were between the ages of 1 and five. The average amount of time that these children had been waiting for a home was 46 months, almost 4 years. The numbers I am speaking of only include children in the US, so you must also consider the millions of orphans in other countries.

I'm sorry if you had your heart set on a newborn baby with blond hair and blue eyes, but nature already decided you can't have that. This is your next best option. So, until all these kids have homes or the pro-lifers adopt them all themselves, I don't want to hear about how terrible abortion is.

Another thing to consider for poor 16-year-olds who are pregnant is that roughly 17% of all children in the US (13 million) live in poverty. Children born to children are often born into poverty and are more likely to themselves become high school dropouts, teenage mothers and to be poor. So for a 16-year-old, keeping the baby is not a good option and neither is giving it up for adoption as that child will probably never find a home. Come to think of it, none of these options are easy decisions; abortion is not an easy way out as many say it is, and neither is carrying a baby for 9 months and then handing it over to someone else. Both can have serious emotional and /or medical consequences but I say either are better than a 16-year-old trying to raise a kid as a poor, young, uneducated single mother.

One last thing--while all these people are trying to put Jesus in our public schools, they may want to leave a little room for the condoms.

Sources: Deptartment of Health and Human Services, US Census


United We Lay said...

I think the psychological effects are evident in the fact that people try to find their birth parents once they find out they're adopted.

indygirl said...


Heddy Gasket said...

The Culture of Before Life and at Deaths Door is just ignorance towards progressive thought.

SAMIAM said...

Have you seen the vibrator shaped like a crucifix ? ...It's heavenly...

maybe a jesus condom would fit just right...

Toad734 said...

RE: Indy

But we don't allow God into the public schools right?

LibraryTavern Liz said...

Maybe somebody should push adoption as an alternative to fertility meds instead of as an alternative to abortion. That at least makes a little bit of sense.

Skoggle said...

Liz - I like your argument. It's simple, correct...and makes a lot of sense.

Toad734 said...



Tom Harper said...

Great post. I once saw a bumper sticker that said "Either adopt a multi-racial crack-addicted Mongoloid baby or shut the fuck up."

Toad734 said...

I need that sticker

United We Lay said...

I want that sticker, too!

United We Lay said...

In Florida they have a "choose-Life" license plate. Every time I see one, I get road rage.

Toad734 said...

You should get one that says "choose to have a life"

Jim said...

The one thing that I could never understand about the pro-life advocates is how stem cell research got mixed in there. Abortion is legal (like it or not) shouldn't those aborted fetuses go to some use? Even if you're against abortion, how could you possibly be against scraping together some good out of so much evil? Not that I think its evil, just trying to make the point in context.

Son of Lilith said...

It's not pro-life, it's anti-choice.

Just in case Mike deletes my most recent comment, here it is.

This is great! I usually have to pay for entertainment this good and more often than not it's of an illegal nature.

That was a joke.

Seriously, watching Mike rant is not unlike annoying my pet chihuahua just for laughs, watching her run around in circles while barking her little bark.

Toad734 said...


I didn't realize that was you on his site.

Son of Lilith said...

Yep, it's me.

BRUISER said...

Reprinted Here For Your Leisure and Pleasure becuae all the Reichwing Blogs are certainly deleting me as you read::::)

So you freedom loving half-wits think you can delete and censor every criticism of this failed president?

Responsiblity is certainly not a Bush trait...unless he is responsible for:

The Defecit
The War In Iraq
The 3,000 Dead Soldiers of said war
The 20,000 Wounded of said war
The Closing of Military Bases
The Benefit Cuts of Active Duty Military
The Benefit Cuts of Veterans
The Cuts of Subsidies to America's Farms
Getting Scott McClellan's boyfriend James Guckert / Jeff Gannon a press pass
Letting the voice of treason Karl Rove Out a CIA official in a time of WAR
Rushing back to Terry Shciavo's "aid" while waiting three days to think about the Katrina victims
Giving Rudy Guliani a reach-a-round
Giving medals and promotions to the people in his administration who seriously failed this country on and or prior to 9/11
Trying to steal social security and reduce future benefits of the entire populace of America
Man I could go on all day...
Refusing homosexuals equal rights ...i mean come on we all know Rumsfeld and Rove are into Judy Garland...
Refusing to be a leader for America in the nations biggest disaster in History (except for his running for office) during and following Katrina
Hating "the Blame game"..where exactly does the buck stop?
Eating pretzels of mass destruction and almost passing away...which proves there is no GOD...
Renting Our US Military to the highest bidder this decade being Saudi Arabia to fight its enemies who we supported for many a moon...lest we forget


And the final responsibilty he will have when congress is taken back in 2006 is being impeached with a worse approval rating than NIXON...

Delete me censor me ---you freedom loving jagbags!!!

Mike V. said...

don't forget, these are all the same stupid fucks that want to make it so people also can't get hold of the planB/morning after pill.
having that pill available to anyone that needs/wants it will reduce abortions. period.

Toad734 said...

RE: Mike

The morning after pill would solve a lot of things; no one could possibly argue that a 1/2 day old embryo is a human life.


Start your own blog; no one can erase you there. And the next time you are feeling so persecuted, find a nice big wooden cross and nail yourself to it.

trick said...

Toad, there are plenty of people who will argue that a half-day old embryo is a human life. Unfortunately, I think you have scared them all away from your blog. I think it's time to go out and drum up some new people to come over and argue with us.

Nice new profile picture, by the way. When will we see the "Everything is totally screwed with the Katrina response" post?

BRUISER said...

Toad ...there we differ .... you seem to think the wood is for the persecuted while I believe it is there for the destitute.

In other news if you would like to see what happening by a Blogger Live From New Orleans with complete coverage
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The News FEMA won't show you...would toad approve?

----Toad I remember a time when you wanted to start internment camps for the mentally challenged-----sucka!!!!

trick said...

Sorry this is a bit off-topic, but everyone should check out http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

F-ing hilarious!

Toad734 said...

RE Trick

Ya that's definitely link worthy; Check out the kids corner where they answer questions such as "why did Jesus have long hair like a homo?"

Isn't the N.O. thing obvious?
It says right on the FEMA and DHS websites.

From Department of Homeland Security:
In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort.

trick said...


Mike V. said...

well, there is no arguing with someone that thinks as soon as the sperm fucks the egg, then you are pregnant and that is a life.
we need to make this available to whomever needs it, and anyone that thinks differently is fucked in the head.
so screw 'em.

erinberry said...

As someone who is having problems conceiving and who is considering adoption, I can honestly say that neocon's comment pisses me off. Who the hell is she to demand that women carry pregnancies for the benefit of infertile couples? That's nothing but pure selfishness to suggest that a woman should carry to term for the purpose of giving me what *I* want. I have no right to do it, and I won't. If we adopt, it will be from someone who has chosen to carry her pregnancy to term.

erinberry said...


Ok, my last statement is silly in its obviousness - What I meant was that if we adopt, it will be from someone who has chosen to carry her pregnancy to term *out of a conscious decision-making process, as opposed to coercion or guilt.*

Toad734 said...

RE: Erinberry


David said...

>no one could possibly argue
>that a 1/2 day old embryo
>is a human life.

Maybe they could just assert that it is and then say "period"?

For the most part, it isn't really five year olds being aborted, is it? Infants are in demand.

Arguments that adoption should eliminate the demand for abortion are one thing, but adoption is a valid thing to bring up in response to the pretense that abortion is the only alternative to raising an unwanted child.