tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post802304748402797061..comments2024-01-13T08:02:30.520-06:00Comments on THE TOAD REPORT: For the Corporation by the CorporationToad734http://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-8323453515778271982010-02-09T21:54:14.066-06:002010-02-09T21:54:14.066-06:00WerdWerdToad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-591004521056131912010-02-09T14:59:40.086-06:002010-02-09T14:59:40.086-06:00Money is a commodity. Speech is not. Money is not ...Money is a commodity. Speech is not. Money is not speech.<br /><br />Look, corporations can spend whatever they want on advertising. But allowing corporations to actively participate in skewing elections in their favor is the direct road to facism.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18282613112168154071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-53780498167413422010-02-01T14:00:21.361-06:002010-02-01T14:00:21.361-06:00actually, the United States IS a corporation. Look...actually, the United States IS a corporation. Look it up, it was passed in Virginia a long time ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-39827999011841996802010-01-28T16:17:42.322-06:002010-01-28T16:17:42.322-06:00Toad asked: "where in the first amendment doe...Toad asked: "where in the first amendment does it say Corporations are either people or the press?"<br /><br />Read it again. Nothing hinges at all on who gets censored. It only says that Congress can't censor. The open-ended ness, of course, means that Congress can't censor the foreign media. That is good alos, that we are allowed to read foreign newspapers and get foreign information.<br /><br />"Are you saying corporations also have the right to vote? Have the freedom of religion? "<br /><br />No. Again, read the Constitution. It described exactly who can vote.<br /><br /><br />"I know you want oil companies making all the laws for you"<br /><br />Not at all. I simply do not want the government censoring free speech speech. Especially political discourse.<br /><br />The issue has everything to do with free speech and protecting the Constitution. To discuss corruption like this is a change of topic.<br /><br />If you don't like it, change the channel.<br /><br />"Come back to me when you find anything in the constitution which gives powers and rights to corporations as opposed to the people."<br /><br />Is that your way of sending me away forever? Because there is no such claim in there, and I've never made it.<br /><br />"....and expression they are also allowed to advertise their products as something that will cure cancer and make you live forever and have a nude gay model as their..."<br /><br />The issues on restricting this are the same as if it was just individuals.<br /><br />Come on, if you don't like what someone says, ignore it.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-20621355107986549312010-01-27T18:54:08.024-06:002010-01-27T18:54:08.024-06:00And I guess since corporations are people and have...And I guess since corporations are people and have the unlimited freedom of speech and expression they are also allowed to advertise their products as something that will cure cancer and make you live forever and have a nude gay model as their spokesperson and show ads during after school cartoon hour?? I mean, they have the freedom of speech right ???<br /><br />Again, you are being lied to!Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-69651163047499931262010-01-27T18:52:13.225-06:002010-01-27T18:52:13.225-06:00where in the first amendment does it say Corporati...where in the first amendment does it say Corporations are either people or the press?<br /><br />Those freedoms were given to the people. With those freedoms, such as the right to vote, comes responsibilities such as the draft, jury duty, etc. Corporations aren't exposed to such duties therefore they don't qualify as entities who are covered by those same freedoms...Not to mention "right of the people", "we the people" right there in the text. <br /><br />Are you saying corporations also have the right to vote? Have the freedom of religion? <br /><br />We also know that the right to free speech is inherently limited as you aren't legally able to commit perjury or yell fire in a crowded theater. <br /><br />I know you want oil companies making all the laws for you, well, they already do but this opens the door even more for your profit only world of corporate oligarchies which will now run the government and makes its decisions...not that they already don't. <br /><br />This is judicial activism at its worst. I wonder which companies have these conservative judges in their pockets?<br /><br />Come back to me when you find anything in the constitution which gives powers and rights to corporations as opposed to the people.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-12635355014611947872010-01-27T18:18:10.709-06:002010-01-27T18:18:10.709-06:00Go ahead and read the First Amendment. I don't...Go ahead and read the First Amendment. I don't blame you if you have forgotten that it exists. After all, the minority in this Supreme Court ruling has.<br /><br />It prohibits Congress censoring speech and freedom of the press. There are no clauses anywhere in it to allow speech to be censored because it its source.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.com