tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post776444972276563247..comments2024-01-13T08:02:30.520-06:00Comments on THE TOAD REPORT: Bible Fail, Which is it?Toad734http://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-60716304356230445352010-02-04T18:38:40.153-06:002010-02-04T18:38:40.153-06:00The way I look at it, all those rules and laws of ...The way I look at it, all those rules and laws of the old testament can teach us a lesson, but aren't laws and rules for us. Even Jesus said that he came to set people free from the law.<br /><br />But you are right. Most fundamentalists choose what parts they like and make them important, while throwing away the rest. <br /><br />The gay thing is a big one. I personally don't think it's wrong. But if it is, I don't really care, and I won't be the one to condemn anyone. That, in my view, would be playing God. Jesus also said "he who is without sin shall cast the first stone" when the crowd wanted to stone the prostitute. I like that attitude. Why would I condemn someone's lifestyle, that isn't hurting anyone, when I "sin" myself everyday.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-86997698661596733532010-02-04T17:02:05.927-06:002010-02-04T17:02:05.927-06:00Actually, I am pretty sure the the common scientif...Actually, I am pretty sure the the common scientific and historical view is that besides Mark, none of the Gospels were actually written by the person for which they were named.<br /><br />Or at least there is evidence that certain books couldn't have been written by the supposed author because those authors didn't speak the language the book was written in or was illiterate and even if they inspired the book, a scribe could well have written what ever they felt like writing.<br /><br />But if it's just the message you are after then fine. But what if that message is inconsistent. I mean, I know what most Christians do, they pick out the parts that are easy, that they like or agree with and ignore the rest. Homosexuality taking the top honors on that one. On the same page even, homosexuality is listed as just as equal of an abomination as eating shell fish and trimming your beard and touching or having sex with your wife when she is on her period. There are no distinctions between these according to Leviticus but most christians still eat shell fish and do not cast their wives out of the village during her period (although I am sure many would like to).Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-67268117879902186832010-02-04T16:38:45.217-06:002010-02-04T16:38:45.217-06:00It does happen on occasion. My parents told me the...It does happen on occasion. My parents told me they were "concerned" about my faith and future and gave me a book.<br /><br />I told them that there is more than one viewpoint, and with mine, little inconsistencies that I can't explain away don't destroy my faith. If some evidence came out that the book of James was actually written by a different apostle, with how i view it, I would care <i>because it doesn't change the message</i>, whereas my parents would have their world rocked.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-29118121794765181742010-02-04T13:22:51.224-06:002010-02-04T13:22:51.224-06:00Maybe you can't answer this but what about the...Maybe you can't answer this but what about the people who do think its the actual word of god when they are presented with such inconsistencies and contradictions??<br /><br />I would assume the response is that I am just a heretic, I was going to burn in hell and that they just have faith??Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-35091098625013272752010-02-04T11:25:24.968-06:002010-02-04T11:25:24.968-06:00But my parents ARE fundamentalists. You should hav...But my parents ARE fundamentalists. You should have heard them when I explained to them what I just wrote to you above. They all but called me a heretic and were concerned about my eternal soul.<br /><br />To be honest, I think too many times people worship the Book instead of the God it is about.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9410473.post-12584229199031303692010-02-04T11:23:54.001-06:002010-02-04T11:23:54.001-06:00I'm no fundamentalist, and even though I can e...I'm no fundamentalist, and even though I can explain some of those, I don't need to as I don't view the Bible as a document dictated by God. I'm more like those catholic priests you mentioned. There are two main views of the Bible in theological circles: <br />1. The Inerrant View-meaning the Bible is word for word God's Word, dictated to man. <br />2. The Inspired View-man wrote the Bible, inspired by God. Mistakes can happen, especially as they were writing from memories, sometimes years later. Jesus walked and did most of those things, but his words are not word perfect. <br /><br />I fall in the latter category. I believe the Bible, but more it's main message: God created and loved humankind. Humankind screwed itself up. He sent himself to redeem humanity, and to teach it how to love. Humankind still screws it up, but is not unredeemable any longer. <br /><br />My faith is in God, not in a book by man about God. Only God is inerrant. Some book may contain a lot of truth, but I don't take it word for word.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.com